NCAA Conference Switcheroo: How Will They Divide the Conferences?
Written by DiLo   
Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:01

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The news today is that Utah has officially accepted the invitation by the Pac-10 to join their conference.  Also added to the Pac-10 was Big 12 doormat Colorado.  This bring their total up to 12 teams.  Boise State left the Western Athletic Conference for the Mountain West and many thought this would make the MWC a BCS conference but with the exit of Utah it seems as though the conference, and Boise State, have both made  lateral movements.  The Big Ten (11) also made a move when they stole Nebraska from the Big 12.  The result is the Big Ten now having 12 teams and the opportunity for a championship game.

I think that is all the moves we will see for the rest of this year.  Since Texas has announced its loyalty to its conference, the Big 12 will remain.  However the division that will have to be made with the Pac-10 and Big Ten have a bunch of possibilities.  Let’s examine the Big Ten first.

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The Big Ten will more than likely be split into an East division and a West division.  What we have learned from the NCAA is that it doesn’t matter your geographic location when getting placed in a division or conference (see: Kentucky, SEC).  At first glance, this is how the divisions would look.

East

Ohio State

Penn State

Michigan

Michigan State

Northwestern

Illinois

West

Minnesota

Wisconsin

Iowa

Nebraska

Purdue

Indiana

This seems like a logical way to split up the conference.  All of the major rivalries are intact with the most obvious being OSU/Michigan.  The problem, upon further inspection, is that the East division is ridiculously strong having Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State.  The most reasonable trade, for competition purposes, would be to give up Penn State for Iowa.  The argument could be made for Indiana, but we need to keep them with Purdue for the in state rivalry to continue.  So then we have the divisions look like this.

East

Ohio State

Michigan

Michigan State

Northwestern

Illinois

Iowa

West

Penn State

Minnesota

Wisconsin

Nebraska

Purdue

Indiana

Of course it doesn’t make sense that Penn State would be in the Western division when they are clearly east of every other team on that list but for the sake of competition they have to move west.  Also, the hardest places to play will be split up nicely with the Horseshoe and the Big House on one side and Happy Valley and Camp Randall on the other.  Unless they are planning on adding a couple more teams, this looks to be the smartest way to split the conference up. 

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The Pac-10 has also been doing some work, the most actually.  They have added two new teams to their conference to bring their total to 12.  Now, they had 10 before but did not have divisions and had no conference championship but I can’t see them remaining as one division with no championship game with 12 schools on their roster.  For their break up it seems the way to go would be to have a North and South division.  Here’s how I see it being broken down.

North

Oregon

Oregon State

Stanford

Cal

Washington

Washington State

South

UCLA

USC

Arizona

Arizona State

Colorado

Utah

This will more than likely be the way they go because it keeps the main rivalries intact.  In case you haven’t noticed, that is one of the biggest concerns when dividing conferences.  In the north, all 6 teams have their rivals in place with Cal/Stanford, UW/WSU and Oregon/OSU.  In the south you still get the classic UCLA/USC match up as well as the babe fest that is Arizona/Arizona State.  The two new comers will be added to the southern mix to round out the division.  USC should be happy that it won’t have to see Oregon or Oregon State every year for their annual let down game.

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The conference that lost the most would be the Big 12.  The conference is down to 10 teams and if it weren’t for Texas standing up and announcing it’s loyalty to the conference, there is no telling how many more teams would have left.  What I do know is that Baylor and Iowa State would have been F’d.  This rearranging of divisions seems to be a little harder.  Both Nebraska and Colorado departed from the North division and have left a gaping hole in it.  Left are Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Missouri to pick up the pieces.  Unfortunately the south division has Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.  They might as well change the names of the divisions from the south and north to David and Goliath.  The only possible way to reorganize these divisions is as follows.

North

Kansas

Kansas State

Iowa State

Missouri

Texas Tech

South

Texas

Texas A&M

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Baylor

I know, I know.  You all think I am crazy to take Texas Tech out of the south, but it is the only way to make it fair.  Which rivalries are stronger?  Those between Texas and TAMU, OU and OSU or TTU and UT?  Exactly.  Besides, if you put Baylor in the north it would, or could, possibly be the worst division is the FBS.  Although still unbelievably unbalanced, talent wise, this is probably the only way to go.  Unless you took Oklahoma/OSU and swapped them with Kansas/K-State.  But if you do that, you take away one of the best rivalries in college football between Texas and Oklahoma….

Obviously all we can do is wait and see what happens but it’s fun to argue about what teams and conferences will do.  Most of these changes will take effect for the 2011 season and not the upcoming 2010.  The exception to that is Colorado who will leave the Big 12 in 2012 for the Pac-10.  This will give the conferences plenty of time to figure out the best way to split up the teams or if they should even split them up at all.  Perhaps the Big 12 gets dwindled down to 10 teams and is one conference, just like the Big Ten (11) is now…

Do you have a headache yet?

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written by Tony DiNunzio, June 17, 2010
The Big XII has 10 teams, they can't have divisions. They will have to choose on either scheduling like the PAC 10 currently does, where all teams have 9 scheduled in conference games, where everyone plays eachother. Or like how the Big Ten currently schedules 8 conference games, which allows for teams to schedule one more out of conference home game. See Ohio State who leaves the Shoe a whopping 4 times this year.

As for the Big Ten, IMO, the only way to split the divisions is...

East: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Purdue
West: Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota

Thats a perfect East/West split. The talk about the divisions being lopsided is rubbish, if you ask me. You can't split up OSU/UM/PSU/MSU and WISC/IOWA - those are the rivalries that make the conference so great. And having any of them split up, where they could possibly play eachother twice in one year is blasphamy. It takes away from the greatness of rivalries if you play them twice in one year. Michigan vs Ohio State is about playing one time every end of November, winner take all.

Furthermore, the WEST division would actually be the stronger division this year, if Nebraska was moving over for 2010. Iowa, Wisconsin, and Nebraska are top 10 teams, IMO. Northwestern is going to be an 8 win team, at worst this year too.

As for any further expansion, thier is word that the Big East may be making a push for Memphis and UCF.



Good Post DiLo!
written by whiskeydizzy, June 17, 2010
LOL @ The big 12 conference log with only an 'X' in the background HAHA!

Agree with Tony that the Big 12 will play a round robin schedule more than likely. Although, I feel the X Factor in this whole equation is Jerry Jones. I imagine he will be pissed that his new statium will not be holding a conf championship game after this year, and he will surely explore his options and do whatever he can to keep it. So, if he suceeds then your divisions may happen. Nothing is impossible for Jerry Jones, but even this may be a long shot.
Disagree w/ Tony about the Big 10 split
written by whiskeydizzy, June 17, 2010
Delany said he has 3 priorities:
1. Competitive Balance
2. Rivalries
3. Geography

http://www.therealshaq.com/art...ig-10.html

There's no way you can put Ohio State, Michigan AND Penn State in the same division if competitive balance is your #1 priority. I agree, having Michigan - Ohio State played twice a year would be a tragedy...that's why they are in the same division.

This is how I would divide it up:

3 Yards Division:
Michigan
Ohio State
Michigan State
Illinois
Purdue
Indiana



Cloud of Dust Division:

Penn State
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Northwestern


If you divide it up that way, only two "trophy rivalries" are lost due to the new divisions. Best way to keep the most of those rivalries going...


The Battle for the Mitten: Michigan vs Mich St - Within Division
Battle of the Land Grants: Mich st vs Penn state - Opposite Divisions
Floyd of Rosedale: Iowa vs Minnesota - Within Division
Governor's Victory Bell: Minnesota vs Penn State - Within Division
Heartland Trophy: Iowa vs Wisconsin - Within Division
Illibuck: Illinois vs Ohio State - Within Division
Land of Lincoln Trophy: Illinois vs Northwestern - Opposite Divisions
Little Brown Jug: Michigan vs Minnesota - Opposite Divisions
Old Brass Spittoon: Indiana vs Michigan State - Within Division
Old Oaken Bucket: Indiana vs Purdue - Within Division
Paul Bunyan's Axe: Minnesota vs Wisconsin - Within Division
Purdue Cannon: Illinois vs Purdue - Within Division
The Game: Michigan vs Ohio State - Within Division



I meant 3 trophy rivalries
written by whiskeydizzy, June 17, 2010
Haven't heard anything certain about Memphis...but now Arkansas is putting out feelers about the Big 12? smilies/shocked.gif

That would be dumb.
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written by Tony DiNunzio, June 17, 2010
Jerry Jones has never been a man to pass up a smart buck, but his hands are tied here. He's a powerful and influencial business man, but he's not going to single handedly change the NCAA's position on conference championship games. Only conferences with 12 teams can have them.

Jerry isn't hurting on filling the event calender at new Cowboys Stadium. He's got TCU vs Oregon State there, Arkansas vs Texas A&M, the Herbstreit Classic, and The Cotton Bowl. Plus, his main focus, right now, seems to be getting Mayweather/Pacquiao.

As for the Big Ten divisions, IMO, you're proposed Cloud of Dust Division (Awesome name btw) with Nebraska, Penn State, Iowa, and Wisconsin is just as unbalanced and doesnt make the same sense geographically.

Look at the other conferences with divisions, they all have a lopsided division, The Big XII South has been far more loaded in the Big XII's history with Tech, A&M, Okie St, UT, and OU. In the SEC, the East with Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee has historically been better.

In the end geography plays the biggest factor. You're not doing Penn State any favors by making them travel much more then any other team in conference.

Good Points Tony
written by The Real Shaq, June 18, 2010
Jerry probably will not be able to do anything about. Just stating his interests, because I am over-loaded with them here in Dallas. He is definitely pissed off...but you're right there is little he can do about it (plus it would suck to play round robin, and THEN have a championship game on top of that. Wouldn't make any sense).

I know Penn State gets screwed...but they are flying to most games anyway and these divisions only apply to football. The rest of the sports have more games and divisions are not necessary. If I were splitting up the divisions myself, I would probably do it with Geography as my #1 priority (like you do). I think your divisions and mine are only different w/Penn State vs Illinois in the West.

And you make a good point that the Cloud of Dust division is stacked...so maybe swapping Illinois and Penn State works out. I don't know. Trying to guess what a Commissioner is going to do based on what he said was important to him publicly may have lead me down the wrong path. Delany can say whatever the F he wants and then do something completely different and have it be okay. The great thing about the Big 10 is the history, so many of these teams have played together for so long it would be a shame to lose too many of those rivalries because of the split.

Even if Penn State and Nebraska don't play every year, it will still be sooo much fun to watch when they do.

I think you might like this one..
written by The Real Shaq, June 19, 2010
What if Conference Expansion Was Like Meeting a Girl in a Bar?

http://bit.ly/c2eIkB

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